Can any of you guys prove the existence of a Christian God and how the unmoved mover created the world.?
You may prove that the unmoved mover exists and that it has no
potency but is pure act. Just from that a lot follows in the form
of what such an object is not. To prove existence it is not necessary
to know the nature of such a thing, but only to infer it
from other things. This will be the best that unaided reason can
do. You will not be able to prove from first principles, as we
understand them per collective agreement, that
the prime mover is a christian God, nor will you be able to
prove that the prime mover created because as the scholastics say,
the newness of the world cannot be demonstrated from the world.
To see how far the unmoved mover can be pushed as a concept
i recommend the Summa Theologica. Any more than the
unmoved mover and it's deducible %26quot;properties%26quot; would have to be
a revealed,external theory.
Can any of you guys prove the existence of a Christian God and how the unmoved mover created the world.?
you won't like my answer,
but i can tell you from just plain experiences i have had that there IS a good god.
whether or not it is THE god christians worship is another question.
No one can prove the existence of a god or God, so believers in that God must have faith and trust he is real.
Prove through the scientific method? No.
Talk about plausibility? Yes.
Do I know specifically how he created it? How in the world could I know that other than what Genesis 1 teaches?
Is a proof required?
You're here, aren't you? You're awfully complex of a being to just happen all the sudden. Don't you think there was some planning involved?
Gods cannot be proved for they are created in our minds. They are concepts, and as such can be created or destroyed in our minds, with a quick snap of the fingers.
Go as deep as your mind will let you, on the meaning of faith. Your atoms, that make up your body,were,are, and will forever be as so much dust in the wind.
The unmoved mover isn't immaterial, it is immaterial materializing. Nothing is true. God exists as much as he is unreal. Any statement you can make is a contradiction of something else.
If the world is too complex to just be and requires a creator then he too is too complex. This is equally true for every other idea.
The Christian God is defined as undefinable... so cannot be proved.
If the unmoved mover was thinking of itself all the time, incapable of changing its topic, and we were somehow created by this unmoved mover, then we would be aware of those thoughts %26quot;of itself.%26quot;
...but that's not the case, is it?
Neither is provable, I'd say.
People will push their ideas on you-- but incomplete ideas don't make sense, do they?
