Wednesday 26 October 2011

What are liberals so afraid of?

When faced with a truly outspoken (or truly entertaining) conservative opinion, I have noticed that Liberals often (always) try to silence the voice. Rarely do they take on the topic, ansering questions directly and presenting facts that back up the position. More often than not, they will resort to insults, irrelevance, and discrediting. When I thought I was a Liberal, I thought it was good debate, keeping the opponent on the ropes. After a while, I noticed that it was simply a good way to dismantle the debate. I realized, I can%26#039;t be proven wrong if I can sabotage the debate, but I also can%26#039;t be proven right. With this question, I expect the liberals out there to insult me, change topic, and blame me. I do NOT expect an honest answer.
What are liberals so afraid of?
Just because you can%26#039;t be proven right doesn%26#039;t mean that you can%26#039;t still bring out the wrongs in your oponent%26#039;s statements (not lifestyle, background, etc.). And how can you tell me that someone that is brave enough to go against the conservative/safe/popular opinion is afraid? The whole point is giving a voice to a topic that didn%26#039;t have one.



And speaking of dismatling debates, I noticed that you had no evidence to support any of your statements. I can%26#039;t even say that your paragraph is filled with fallacies, because it is only filled with YOUR OPINION. Try taking a polisci class or a debate class, then make arguments that you can support.
What are liberals so afraid of?
I never said that you were uneducated, just that you didn%26#039;t use your knowledge to make your statements into convicing arguments. I didn%26#039;t mean to evade the topic, knowing that both sides use these tactics... and I didn%26#039;t assume to be the voice of the whole liberal party.... just that of my own. ;)

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Conservatives do it too. It%26#039;s easier to call somebody names than listen to their argument and rebut it.
We Liberals are afraid of nothing. We%26#039;re not afraid of terrorists, we%26#039;re not afraid to leave the house with out a gun and we%26#039;re certainly not afraid of having a republican Congress or President after the next two election cycles.
%26quot;Not taking on the topic%26quot; is something that could be attributable to anyone%26#039;s political persuasion. In forensic debate, this is what%26#039;s known as an %26quot;ad hominem%26quot;. Latin for, attack the author, not the topic. Again, this has nothing to do with one%26#039;s political persuasions, or beliefs. There are 300 million people in the U.S. I%26#039;d wager you have%26#039;nt met all of them.
It%26#039;s funny that the ones claiming to be the most openminded act so much more hatful towards people they disagree with..

(racist hatemongering neocon Nazis)
Since I have no political affiliation(hate %26#039;em all), I can share an observation that there seems to be SO many conservatives going off on liberals, but not many liberals going off on conservatives. They seem to be arguing with themselves. Also, if these young conservatives are drinking the Kool-Aid, then why aren%26#039;t they enlisted and fighting in Iraq, instead of sitting in front of a computer and yelling at no one in particular. Just an observation
It%26#039;s the Cons who are afraid of Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, etc. That%26#039;s why they want war with these countries. FEAR.
I always thought the conservatives were the ones that didn%26#039;t fight fair. Have you ever seen the Colbert Report? How he makes fun of the ridiculous (or as you think, entertaining) conservative talkers. How indeed can a liberal (or anyone else) fight truthiness?
You wrote all of that, but it was a statement, not a question. First of all, have you seen the recent questions pertaining to Democrats %26quot;sitting on their front porch and collecting Welfare checks?%26quot; I remember you answering it. It was insulting to those who are actually trying to make it. I know them and have seen them. These are the people I work with to find ways to get decent employment and keep it. Then you agree with the person who made a generalizing statement about people and welfare. Want to give me an opinion, I will politely disagree. Make a derogatory statement or slur; expect to get one back....
I have often presented arguments on this site to the conservative republicans, and I have never gotten an intelligent response from them. The only answer I ever get is that I hate America, I love terrorist, I%26#039;m uneducated (have a master%26#039;s degree btw) I%26#039;m a democrap, libertard, or that Clinton cheated on his wife and lied about it.

So no, it%26#039;s not only the liberal side that uses insults and bullying tactics to try to make their point.
What%26#039;s so weird is that if you had a good education you would probably be a Liberal.
Look at it this way, conservatives hate liberals and vice versa. If you ask me that is what the government wants, they want people of different political parties at each others throats so that we won%26#039;t notice it when they pass crazy legislation that neither one of those two parties would want to happen to begin with. If you ask me the people need to get on the same wavelength, because it seems to me that the governments plan is working we are all against each other and that is what they want in Washington. The American people need to unite to get this country straight again, we need to put our differences aside and work to make this country what we loved about it originally.
I don%26#039;t think this is solely the provenance of the left; I%26#039;ve seen the same behavior from the right.
The right-wing nut jobs have been cowering in fear for the past 5 years. They see a %26quot;terrorist%26quot; behind every bush. They fear about 10 nations in the world who, in reality, are no threat at all. They fear Mexican immigrants. They fear not having a handgun. They fear the Apocalypse and the End Times. The Republicanazi Party is the party of fear. Under The Chimp, the name of the country should be changed to %26quot;The Paranoid States of America.%26quot;
I%26#039;m afraid that when the floor finally falls out for the conservatives and they lose everything they have worked so hard for all their lives they will start blaming me for their problems.
I%26#039;m a libertarian...I think conservatives and liberals are equally obnoxious. Seems like every time I get in a discussion with a Conservative or Liberal, we end up talking about some stupid, non-relevant moral issue.



I hope we elect a gay republican who owns a chain of abortion clinics and papermills.
Nothng but lsing all of our fredoms and rights to a right wing theocracy .

If you want name calling just listento Rush Bill o Reilly , Sean Hannity and of copurse Ann Coulter.

Itis typical of right wingers to call names becaise they are wrong of copurse once the name calling strts it is hard to stop . i will say the left idsick of beong called upatriotic , supporting trerroists, soft n crime and on and on because the do not agree wth the far right . Oh and my favorite is liberals hate god .Wrong they thing relgion nad governemnt should bne seperate i do too. juist lok at the wonderfull theocracies in the middleeast . IRan a nuice place ?



We are afraid of losing every thing that makes this nation great of losing the middle class . of becoing a thrid world nation in a decade or less. of alot that has been messee up by Bu$h and his corrupt cronies. we are afraid of theKen lays who ruin lives then off thme selves rather than do time think the coiuld srew the little guy 0nelast time but No at least his debtors can come after his family and estate



That iswhat lieral ar afraid of to much power in with out any ceck I do mnot want ot lie in a relgious facist Police state



Oh taking the figh to the ismaitsts we do not haeenough troops to even egin . ther are billins of them and they all hate us andare willing ot die toi kil uss . think about that one howw do yopu fight that mentality excpet wioth nukes ?
The truth, it debunks all there arguements.
TRUTH,They can%26#039;t handle it!
Everything you said applies to the neoconservatives not to real liberals or progressives. You have done the typical neoconservative act of turning everything around that you do and blame someone else. Typical hypocrisy of your kind. I am a progressive but don%26#039;t pin that on all conservatives. Real Conservatives such as William Buckley have my great respect. But you probably don%26#039;t even know who he is. He does not go around blaming others who disagree with him for everything the way you do. He simply but eloquently states his premises and backs them. up. He is a gentleman..something the new conservatives don%26#039;t know how to do.
Surprisingly I have seen this as a habbit of both ends on the political spectrum. Not only have I come across many liberals like this when I was a conservative, I have also come across plenty of conservatives when I was a liberal.



I grew so sick of both parties I%26#039;ve become a moderate who%26#039;s now a registered independant. Every time I peek into the childish battle field of the politics answering section all I see are insults flying back and forth between liberals and conservatives and I rarely see a decent point, question, or argument made by either of the two. If conservatives would stop exagerating their attacks on the lack of courge to fight and liberals would stop blowing funny phrases out of proportion the two of you could actually sit down and settle things.



Charchter attacks only appeal the atackers and attract those who can%26#039;t think well enough on their own. When a conservative is asking what liberals are so afraid of liberals are saying %26quot;hey we%26#039;re talking, but not all of those who agree have the courage to speak up to arrogant neo conservatives who do nothing but slander meaningless facts that can be worked around by using representation.%26quot;



The next time you go pick on the liberals, ACCURATELY defend yourself on your vies of illegal immagration or abortion in a much more MATURE way, or else you are just making your self look like a fool as well as make an *** out of the right wing, which embarasses all those like me who were once there.



Liberals- same to you!
UUUUMMMMM...Conservatives do the same thing....People who live in glass houses shouldn%26#039;t throw stones!!!!
you almost seem to be serious... so let%26#039;s take a look at your own question for just a second



you ask the question %26quot;what are liberals afraid of?%26quot;... how can you use FACTS to support that question? you can%26#039;t... it%26#039;s not a fact based question.. your question doesn%26#039;t even bother with logic...



I SEE IT ALL THE TIME ON HERE... CONSERVATIVES ASK QUESTIONS LIKE %26quot;WHY ARE LIBERALS STUPID?%26quot; AND THEN SAY %26quot;THEY CAN%26#039;T EVEN USE FACTS%26quot; OR %26quot;THEY DON%26#039;T ANSWER THE QUESTION%26quot;



YOU PEOPLE ASK QUESTIONS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ISSUES OR FACTS AND ARE IN THEMSELVES NOTHING MORE THAN CHILDISH INSULTS (AS YOUR QUESTION CLEARLY IS) AND THEN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT OUR POOR ANSWERS?



MAYBE PEOPLE WHO CAN%26#039;T ASK A GOOD QUESTION TO SAVE THEIR LIVES SHOULD LOOK AT THEMSELVES AND THEIR OWN CHILDISH, FACTLESS, CITELESS QUESTIONS FIRST .... BEFORE THEY START CRYING ABOUT THE PEOPLE...
Why do conservatives hide from the changing world???? In a time when great change is happening you need a leader who will change with it not try to control it!
they are afraid of change
everything
They are afraid of life becoming to real for them.
face it, they are afraid of the truth and of being wrong!! When they realize they are wrong, they dont want to throw away all their liberal teachers and friends have taught them, this isnt just true with liberals, but for all human beings. No one wants to throw away what they%26#039;ve been taught for their whole lives.
Sheeeeesh... What are they NOT afraid of? Fortunately for them, everything terrifying in life has the same solution: more laws!
In a nutshell, liberals are afraid of themselves and the things they do.



Example: when liberals use personal insults, they are expressing how they feel about themselves. The same as when hclinton spews fear about the %26#039;vast right wing conspiracy%26#039;, she is only admitting her membership in the %26quot;vast left wing conspiracy%26quot;, but she thinks she is directing attention away from herself.